Swamp Thing Radio Season 0 – Episode 7: Blue Devil

This week on Swamp Thing Radio Carolyn and Wendy take a very deep dive into everyone’s favorite stuntman, super hero, demon, bouncer Dan Cassidy aka the Blue Devil. Dan Cassidy will be played in the DC Universe’s Swamp Thing by former 90210 heartthrob Ian Ziering.

We’ll cover Blue Devil’s entire history from his inception up until his most recent appearances in Justice League Dark. We even touch on Blue Devil’s former sidekick turned Teen Titan Eddie Bloomberg aka Red Devil.

Here are some links and images we mentioned in this week’s episode:

  1. If you are interested in reading Back Issue 21 which was a Devil Themed issue and featured an interview with Gary Cohn and Dan Mishkin. It can be found on the TwoMorrows website here: http://twomorrows.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=415
  2. Here is the Trickster looking very much like Mark Hamill in the Flash
  3. Here is a good look at the bizarre form of Nebiros
  4. SHOCKWAVE: He likes to break things
  5. Blue Devil’s sexy pecs . . . er um . . . super healing ability
  6. Man fused with technology
  7. The Blue Devil Letters column header
  8. “But I don’t want to be . . .” (Justice League HR needs to have a serious talk with Z)
  9. Shadowpact #4 is a great Blue Devil “Day in the Life” story
  10. Wendy’s dramatic reading from Blue Devil #5

LOGLINE:When CDC researcher Abby Arcane returns to her childhood home of Houma, Louisiana, in order to investigate a deadly swamp-borne virus, she develops a surprising bond with scientist Alec Holland—only to have him tragically taken from her. But as powerful forces descend on Houma, intent on exploiting the swamp’s mysterious properties for their own purposes, Abby will discover that the swamp holds mystical secrets, both horrifying and wondrous—and the potential love of her life may not be dead after all.

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  1. Great podcast episode! I’m interested in Dan even more now. OMG, yes about Dan calling out the experiences of below-the-line crew members in Hollywood productions! I LOVE the way DOOM PATROL shows the experiences of what white women (and by extension women of color) in Hollywood in the older days. I don’t think much changed, but the show does an excellent commentary on that, and I’m thinking Dan would do a great off-screen representation.

    I can’t wait to hear about Matt and Abby next week tbh. There was some talk about him in another episode, but if y’all are doing a more in-depth conversation, I can’t wait.

    There is some confusion here about Voodoo and Hoodoo.

    So Voodoo/Vodou/Vodun is an African Traditional Religion based in Fon and Ewe culture, and the diaspora that still practices it call it by different names e.g Haitian Vodou and Louisiana Voodoo (and their practice differs per region because being enslaved in different regions under different countries with their own religious hegemony). Lwa (calling them spirits is an understatement but they control different aspects of life and existence from parts of nature to the concept of anger and of knowledge, etc) stem from this religion, and Carolyn, you are right about pure evil / good dichotomy not existing here. Because Vodun is monotheistic, there is one God, who the followers are aware doesn’t involve in human matters. Lwa do this, though. They aren’t purely good or evil. They are served, not worshipped. Ancestors are worshipped. You perform rituals for the Lwa on certain days and offer them things they like, be it food, jewelry, drinks, etc. Every Lwa has a veve. The Rada Lwa are older, wiser, and patient than the others. There are Petwo Lwa which are really important in Haitian Vodou because they helped during the Haitian Revolution. They are more warlike and hot-headed. These are all closed religions that require a priest to initiate you, and I stress contacting with Petwo Lwa is really dangerous if you are not ready or don’t have a priest there with you. Any non-black person messing around with Lwa or contacting African ancestors can end badly.

    Hoodoo is rootwork or conjuring (as in, bring up your ancestors or the Saints for help) which is folk magic (a practice). It is not a religion (and it is not Voodoo), so you can be Muslim, Christian, Jewish, or of any religious faith and still practice it. How someone integrates that is personal to them because there are parts of Judaism and Islam that make it incompatible with magical practice (which is why you have to be of that faith and be Black to be able to understand how to go about those ways). Rootwork has its roots in various African Traditional Religions in West and Central African cultures, and it became its own thing because of the syncretism of Native American herbal teachings, European paganism, Christianity and Catholicism, African folk magic, and some Jewish and East Asian cultures while spreading throughout the southern U.S, and with the Great Migration, some practitioners moved up north as well. To every practitioner, rootwork means something different to them. It’s not witchcraft, but it’s on a parallel path as it in that they’re both magical practices. This is also another closed practice that can end badly if nonblack people mess around with it. You can be a herbalist or a healer among other positions. I think of Rootdoctors as Exorcists (because they can cleanse someone of demons), but they do way more than just that. They do design bags and charms and also have different spells. I think this is the route Swamp Thing should go because they can keep the Arthurian background of Xanadu (from the comics) while also integrating the change of making Xanadu a Black woman. Because the character description for her in the series said she was an immortal sorceress who remains conflicted with having to set things in motion that she doesn’t always want to happen. This can also work for the darker demon stuff y’all were talking about with the Sunderlands. It makes sense here, and they can work out the details in the writer’s room.

    To write about either of these two, either you have to be Black, or if you’re non-Black, you need Black co-writers who know about either of these two extensively. It is VERY hard to find reliable information about either practice because nonblack people butcher it in their fascination or conflate them. Many Black learners don’t even get to understand them appropriately. Even I, myself, am still learning.

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